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		<title>The 180L vs MP-E 65 Sharpness Test</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A number of people have asked me about the sharpness of the Canon 180L.&#160; In general, I find this to be a very sharp lens but that doesn&#8217;t help very much.&#160; Therefore, I decided to try a little test.&#160; Unfortunately, given that I do not have a tremendous amount of time, I was not able [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of people have asked me about the sharpness of the Canon <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112541-USA/Canon_2539A007_Telephoto_EF_180mm_f_3_5L.html/BI/2914/KBID/3857" target="_blank">180L</a>.&nbsp; In general, I find this to be a very sharp lens but that doesn&#8217;t help very much.&nbsp; Therefore, I decided to try a little test.&nbsp; Unfortunately, given that I do not have a tremendous amount of time, I was not able to take pictures specifically for this test.&nbsp; Luckily, though, I had some pictures that were of similar subjects taken with both lenses.</p>
<p>Both shots were taken with the MT-24EX mounted and were at 1/200 second at apertures of f/11.&nbsp; The camera used was the Canon 5D.&nbsp; One shot was taken with the 180L while the other was taken with the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183199-USA/Canon_2540A002_Macro_Photo_MP_E_65mm.html/BI/2914/KBID/3857" target="_blank">MP-E 65</a>.&nbsp; With both shots, I took a number of the same subject so I then took the best representative shot from each set.&nbsp; The following are the two test shots.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirispupis/2904910850/" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/2904910850_495d5700a2_o.jpg"></a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirispupis/2904067129/" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/2904067129_c9768f9bf7_o.jpg"></a> </p>
<p>I hope it is obvious which shot was taken with the 180L and which was taken with the MP-E 65.</p>
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<p>Let&#8217;s take a look at both of these shots at 100%.</p>
<p><a href="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-2.png"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="459" alt="image" src="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-thumb.png" width="604" border="0"></a> </p>
<p><a href="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-4.png"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="364" alt="image" src="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-thumb-1.png" width="604" border="0"></a> </p>
<p>At 100%, both shots still look fairly good.&nbsp; The top one, of course, is the MP-E 65.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s the result at 200%.</p>
<p><a href="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-6.png"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="414" alt="image" src="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-thumb-2.png" width="604" border="0"></a> </p>
<p><a href="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-8.png"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="406" alt="image" src="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-thumb-3.png" width="604" border="0"></a> </p>
<p>Try to keep in mind that the eye is larger from the MP-E 65 shot because the shot was taken at a higher magnification than the 1x of the 180L.&nbsp; It does appear that they are quite close.&nbsp; Here is the shot of the 180L magnified to 300% &#8211; where the eye is roughly the same size as that in the MP-E 65.</p>
<p><a href="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-10.png"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="409" alt="image" src="http://calevphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windowslivewriterthe180lvsmpe65sharpnesstest-6986image-thumb-4.png" width="604" border="0"></a> </p>
<p>Obviously the MP-E 65 version is sharper, but that one is at 200% vs this one at 300%.&nbsp; In my opinion if I had to pick a winner it would be the MP-E 65, due to the detail in the facets of the eye vs the detail of the top of the head on the shot from the 180L.</p>
<p>In truth though this is neither a scientific nor a very fair test.&nbsp; With all of the gear I had on the camera, I should try to see if I can take shots higher than 1/200th with the 180L &#8211; perhaps with high speed flash sync &#8211; to see if that improves the sharpness.&nbsp; Certainly there is a higher chance of camera shake with the 180L and the Wimberley brackets than with the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183199-USA/Canon_2540A002_Macro_Photo_MP_E_65mm.html/BI/2914/KBID/3857" target="_blank">MP-E 65</a>.&nbsp; Also, to be entirely fair both shots should have been at 1x &#8211; though the MP-E 65 is actually sharper at 1x than at 2x.</p>
<p>This also does not give an indication of how well these lenses work with a 21MP sensor, which I hope to show in a few months.&nbsp; In the end, I may not have proven anything here but I hope to have given you an idea of the sharpness of the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112541-USA/Canon_2539A007_Telephoto_EF_180mm_f_3_5L.html/BI/2914/KBID/3857" target="_blank">180L</a>.</p>


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